I'm arguing for a system category

by irishoutsider , Friday, February 03, 2012, 13:16 (5241 days ago) @ bpeters07

Execution puts you on a fairly even playing field vs raw talent. Boise State, TCU, OSU, Stanford, Oregon in recent years are what I'm basing this on.

Player development takes you to the next level, and then "special talents" increase the odds of taking it over the top. This is why I think Shaw can keep the machine running without Luck as long as the fundamentals are still in place. With those in place, youve got an 8-9 win "floor" to build from and go out and try to get the next Luck.

Its a virtuous cycle, but you have to put the pieces in place. It doesnt happen over night, and it certainly doesnt happen solely because you buy a new coach (unless of course he's a close match to the existing system).

ND's biggest flaw over the past 15 years has been the constant lurching. Davie ball, something else, West Coast offense, Pro-Style, Spread. 3-4! no 4-3! no hybrid! no 4-3!

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A hypothesis re: Stanford - irishoutsider, 2012-02-03, 10:42
- I'm probably wrong about this... - DCT, 2012-02-03, 11:37
  - I think there's two models for success right now - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:40
    - question - bpeters07, 2012-02-03, 11:54
      - I'm arguing for a system category - irishoutsider, 2012-02-03, 13:16
        
        I get your overall argument, but... - Greg, 2012-02-03, 13:21
        
        Let me rephrase - irishoutsider, 2012-02-03, 13:30
        
        Gotcha - Greg, 2012-02-03, 13:34
      - that's a very good counter-example - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 12:36
        
        not a bad model to follow. - bpeters07, 2012-02-03, 12:52
  - Take out the word "college" - Greg, 2012-02-03, 11:39
- aren't we overreading Stanford's success just a bit? - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:21
  - Sure, but since Harbaugh left - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2012-02-03, 11:29
    - into one good recruing class - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:33
  - In terms of being a one (OK, two)-hit wonder, yeah. But, - BillyGoat, 2012-02-03, 11:25
    - what you say is certainly possible - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:35
      - Harbaugh deserves most of the credit - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:45
        
        And it took time - Jim (fisherj08), 2012-02-03, 11:47
        
        True - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:50
        
        And it will taper without Luck and the two OL going into the - BillyGoat, 2012-02-03, 11:46
        
        they won't go into the toilet - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:48
        
        That when you have institutional disadvantages... - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:55
- The window at ND is ridiculously, painfully, small. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2012-02-03, 11:20
  - You touched on what I think is the key to rebuilding ND - Greg, 2012-02-03, 13:16
    - One nit - CK08, 2012-02-03, 13:26
      - We should think twice before we dismiss Chan Gaileydom - irishoutsider, 2012-02-03, 13:33
      - OK. But... - Greg, 2012-02-03, 13:32
        
        I guess I wasn't really thinking about a 10 year period - CK08, 2012-02-03, 13:48
  - Very nice words - CW (Rakes), 2012-02-03, 13:13
  - Enabler. You're part of the problem - hobbs, 2012-02-03, 11:53
  - Going to replace my generic "excellent post" - CK08, 2012-02-03, 11:38
  - well said - bpeters07, 2012-02-03, 11:36
  - Very good post. I'll cosign all of that. - BillyGoat, 2012-02-03, 11:22

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I'm arguing for a system category