that's a very good counter-example
I think that counter example falls somewhere between 1 and 2. You're right though, Chip Kelly has done a fabulous job of making QB play systematic. However, what's really interesting about that offense is that they do a deceptively good job of minimizing the QB.
2009
Masoli - 305 pass attempts, 121 rushing attempts
Costa - 33 pass attempts, 16 rushing attempts
QB touches - 475 (53.6%)
non-QB touches - 410 (46.4%)
2010
Thomas - 361 pass attempts, 93 rushing attempts
Costa - 33 pass attempts, 20 rushing attempts
QB touches - 507 (49.6%)
non-QB touches - 517 (50.4%)
2011
Thomas - 339 pass attempts, 56 rushing attempts
Bennett - 46 pass attempts, 23 rushing attempts
QB touches - 464 (45.8%)
non-QB touches - 550 (54.2%)
The Ducks focus on the ground attack and get more yardage on the ground than through the air. Contrast that to Baylor. RG accounted for 581 of the team's 1000 touches and that Baylor accumulated 1500 more passing than rushing yards.
So while Oregon's strengths are on offense, they don't run anywhere near as QB centric an offense as others. I would suggest they're sort of a mid-point between #1 and #2.
Complete thread:
- A hypothesis re: Stanford -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 10:42
- I'm probably wrong about this... -
DCT,
2012-02-03, 11:37
- I think there's two models for success right now -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:40
- question -
bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:54
- I'm arguing for a system category -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- I get your overall argument, but... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:21
- Let me rephrase -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:30
- Gotcha - Greg, 2012-02-03, 13:34
- Let me rephrase -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:30
- I get your overall argument, but... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:21
- that's a very good counter-example -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 12:36
- not a bad model to follow. - bpeters07, 2012-02-03, 12:52
- I'm arguing for a system category -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- question -
bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:54
- Take out the word "college" - Greg, 2012-02-03, 11:39
- I think there's two models for success right now -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:40
- aren't we overreading Stanford's success just a bit? -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:21
- Sure, but since Harbaugh left -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2012-02-03, 11:29
- into one good recruing class - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:33
- In terms of being a one (OK, two)-hit wonder, yeah. But, -
BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:25
- what you say is certainly possible -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:35
- Harbaugh deserves most of the credit -
BPH,
2012-02-03, 11:45
- And it took time -
Jim (fisherj08),
2012-02-03, 11:47
- True - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:50
- And it will taper without Luck and the two OL going into the -
BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:46
- they won't go into the toilet -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:48
- That when you have institutional disadvantages... - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:55
- they won't go into the toilet -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:48
- And it took time -
Jim (fisherj08),
2012-02-03, 11:47
- Harbaugh deserves most of the credit -
BPH,
2012-02-03, 11:45
- what you say is certainly possible -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:35
- Sure, but since Harbaugh left -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2012-02-03, 11:29
- The window at ND is ridiculously, painfully, small. -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2012-02-03, 11:20
- You touched on what I think is the key to rebuilding ND -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- One nit -
CK08,
2012-02-03, 13:26
- We should think twice before we dismiss Chan Gaileydom - irishoutsider, 2012-02-03, 13:33
- OK. But... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:32
- I guess I wasn't really thinking about a 10 year period - CK08, 2012-02-03, 13:48
- One nit -
CK08,
2012-02-03, 13:26
- Very nice words
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CW (Rakes),
2012-02-03, 13:13
- Enabler. You're part of the problem - hobbs, 2012-02-03, 11:53
- Going to replace my generic "excellent post" - CK08, 2012-02-03, 11:38
- well said
-
bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:36
- Very good post. I'll cosign all of that.
-
BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:22
- You touched on what I think is the key to rebuilding ND -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- I'm probably wrong about this... -
DCT,
2012-02-03, 11:37