A hypothesis re: Stanford
Or rather, a hypothesis heavily involving Stanford, or where it comes to mind.
An academically rigorous university can compete at the highest level if it commits itself to athletic excellence and sticks to a strong fundamental plan. This plan can be any variation on successful gameplans (power football, spread offenses, Air Raid etc) but the success of the plan is determined by three factors:
1. Fundamental soundness of the plan.
2. Long-term commitment of the plan for player development/experience
3. Institutional support/infrastructure
Basically the means, motive, and opportunity to championship football.
Ill argue that there are too many things about Notre Dame's identity that conflict with various parts of these arguments, and invite opportunity to fail.
Trying to take my head out of my own ass for a moment, applying this to the current situation, point 1 is arguable, though we are fortunate to have a plan a bit more sound than running the power-I option or whatever the hell Kevin Rodgers was up to. Should Brian Kelly be hit by a bus tomorrow, applying point 1 would involve replacing him with someone able to run an offense somewhat related to the current roster. (EDIT: philosophy. Replacing Kelly with a 3yrds colud of dust type would be inviting failure)
Points 2 and 3 are questions for us as a fanbase and for the administration. Can we ride out the growing pains of rebuilding long enough to actually do it? Does the program have the resources and ability (both within the program and as part of the university) to continually compete at a high level?
This isnt trying to be another qualitative "does the dome care or doesnt it" post. I'm trying to understand where the program's weaknesses have been on the most basic levels. Do we have the means? Do we have the motive? Do we have the opportunity? What is lacking, and is it within the program's power and the overall university's mission to correct those differences?
Complete thread:
- A hypothesis re: Stanford -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 10:42
- I'm probably wrong about this... -
DCT,
2012-02-03, 11:37
- I think there's two models for success right now -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:40
- question -
bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:54
- I'm arguing for a system category -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- I get your overall argument, but... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:21
- Let me rephrase -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:30
- Gotcha - Greg, 2012-02-03, 13:34
- Let me rephrase -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:30
- I get your overall argument, but... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:21
- that's a very good counter-example -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 12:36
- not a bad model to follow. - bpeters07, 2012-02-03, 12:52
- I'm arguing for a system category -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- question -
bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:54
- Take out the word "college" - Greg, 2012-02-03, 11:39
- I think there's two models for success right now -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:40
- aren't we overreading Stanford's success just a bit? -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:21
- Sure, but since Harbaugh left -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2012-02-03, 11:29
- into one good recruing class - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:33
- In terms of being a one (OK, two)-hit wonder, yeah. But, -
BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:25
- what you say is certainly possible -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:35
- Harbaugh deserves most of the credit -
BPH,
2012-02-03, 11:45
- And it took time -
Jim (fisherj08),
2012-02-03, 11:47
- True - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:50
- And it will taper without Luck and the two OL going into the -
BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:46
- they won't go into the toilet -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:48
- That when you have institutional disadvantages... - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:55
- they won't go into the toilet -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:48
- And it took time -
Jim (fisherj08),
2012-02-03, 11:47
- Harbaugh deserves most of the credit -
BPH,
2012-02-03, 11:45
- what you say is certainly possible -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:35
- Sure, but since Harbaugh left -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2012-02-03, 11:29
- The window at ND is ridiculously, painfully, small. -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2012-02-03, 11:20
- You touched on what I think is the key to rebuilding ND -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- One nit -
CK08,
2012-02-03, 13:26
- We should think twice before we dismiss Chan Gaileydom - irishoutsider, 2012-02-03, 13:33
- OK. But... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:32
- I guess I wasn't really thinking about a 10 year period - CK08, 2012-02-03, 13:48
- One nit -
CK08,
2012-02-03, 13:26
- Very nice words
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CW (Rakes),
2012-02-03, 13:13
- Enabler. You're part of the problem - hobbs, 2012-02-03, 11:53
- Going to replace my generic "excellent post" - CK08, 2012-02-03, 11:38
- well said
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bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:36
- Very good post. I'll cosign all of that.
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BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:22
- You touched on what I think is the key to rebuilding ND -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- I'm probably wrong about this... -
DCT,
2012-02-03, 11:37