Harbaugh deserves most of the credit
He recruited Luck. He helped develop him. Most important, he fundamentally changed the culture of Stanford football to where a guy like Luck didn't have to carry Stanford on his back all by himself because he was supported by a pounding running game and physical defense that has essentially never existed at the school. Luck was a huge piece of Harbaugh's plan, but in the end he was just a piece. Harbaugh built that program to last, and if Shaw is a good coach, then it will last.
Complete thread:
- A hypothesis re: Stanford -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 10:42
- I'm probably wrong about this... -
DCT,
2012-02-03, 11:37
- I think there's two models for success right now -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:40
- question -
bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:54
- I'm arguing for a system category -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- I get your overall argument, but... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:21
- Let me rephrase -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:30
- Gotcha - Greg, 2012-02-03, 13:34
- Let me rephrase -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:30
- I get your overall argument, but... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:21
- that's a very good counter-example -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 12:36
- not a bad model to follow. - bpeters07, 2012-02-03, 12:52
- I'm arguing for a system category -
irishoutsider,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- question -
bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:54
- Take out the word "college" - Greg, 2012-02-03, 11:39
- I think there's two models for success right now -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:40
- aren't we overreading Stanford's success just a bit? -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:21
- Sure, but since Harbaugh left -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2012-02-03, 11:29
- into one good recruing class - HumanRobot, 2012-02-03, 11:33
- In terms of being a one (OK, two)-hit wonder, yeah. But, -
BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:25
- what you say is certainly possible -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:35
- Harbaugh deserves most of the credit -
BPH,
2012-02-03, 11:45
- And it took time -
Jim (fisherj08),
2012-02-03, 11:47
- True - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:50
- And it will taper without Luck and the two OL going into the -
BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:46
- they won't go into the toilet -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:48
- That when you have institutional disadvantages... - BPH, 2012-02-03, 11:55
- they won't go into the toilet -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:48
- And it took time -
Jim (fisherj08),
2012-02-03, 11:47
- Harbaugh deserves most of the credit -
BPH,
2012-02-03, 11:45
- what you say is certainly possible -
HumanRobot,
2012-02-03, 11:35
- Sure, but since Harbaugh left -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2012-02-03, 11:29
- The window at ND is ridiculously, painfully, small. -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2012-02-03, 11:20
- You touched on what I think is the key to rebuilding ND -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- One nit -
CK08,
2012-02-03, 13:26
- We should think twice before we dismiss Chan Gaileydom - irishoutsider, 2012-02-03, 13:33
- OK. But... -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:32
- I guess I wasn't really thinking about a 10 year period - CK08, 2012-02-03, 13:48
- One nit -
CK08,
2012-02-03, 13:26
- Very nice words
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CW (Rakes),
2012-02-03, 13:13
- Enabler. You're part of the problem - hobbs, 2012-02-03, 11:53
- Going to replace my generic "excellent post" - CK08, 2012-02-03, 11:38
- well said
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bpeters07,
2012-02-03, 11:36
- Very good post. I'll cosign all of that.
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BillyGoat,
2012-02-03, 11:22
- You touched on what I think is the key to rebuilding ND -
Greg,
2012-02-03, 13:16
- I'm probably wrong about this... -
DCT,
2012-02-03, 11:37