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I agree. Especially since Harley Davidson seems to me

by BillyGoat , At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 12:31 (2838 days ago) @ CK08

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A good article on "civility" - at least to me. - oviedoirish, 2018-06-26, 08:22
- This is some serious egotistical bullshit. - OGerry, 2018-06-26, 10:25
  - I don't think we should encourage people to shout at - Joe, 2018-06-26, 18:03
    - Then get out of the hospitality business. - OGerry, 2018-06-26, 18:33
      - I don't know. - Joe, 2018-06-26, 20:30
        
        If a murderer rolled into my restaurant, I'd call the police - OGerry, 2018-06-27, 06:14
        
        FWIW, every restaurant I see hangs a sign - Joe I, 2018-06-27, 09:21
        
        I presume and hope - OGerry, 2018-06-27, 14:46
  - I imagine you are not one of those abortion opponents - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 10:38
    - It's a hypothetical to me, because I don't do that. - OGerry, 2018-06-26, 11:03
      - I'm less assured of my own personal norm than before - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 11:17
        
        Fair enough. - OGerry, 2018-06-26, 14:12
- The structural part really is key. - Publicola, 2018-06-26, 09:32
- Great Article but one sentence made me a little pause: - Grantland, 2018-06-26, 09:29
- Two Elie Wiesel quotes that I think are important to follow: - oviedoirish, 2018-06-26, 09:16
- Very sad and very true - Jack, 2018-06-26, 09:01
  - He’ll find someone else to blame for the economic problems - Jeff (BGS), 2018-06-26, 09:29
    - Harley's employees already have. - domer.mq, 2018-06-28, 05:42
    - His base isn't big enough to get him elected dog catcher - Jack, 2018-06-26, 09:36
      - Many of those Obama-Trump voters - CK08, 2018-06-26, 12:21
        
        Exactly. People voted for him because they felt left out - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:33
        
        Your second sentence is key - CK08, 2018-06-26, 13:04
        
        I agree. Especially since Harley Davidson seems to me - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 12:31
        
        I suspect they're the first of many - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:58
      - I don't think you appreciate the basis of Trump's appeal. - MattG, 2018-06-26, 10:06
        
        I don't think that is true. - Bill, 2018-06-26, 14:22
        
        I appreciate the basis just fine - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:28
        
        I think youre ignoring a large group of people - DEM, 2018-06-26, 11:31
        
        I can't see that as a huge demographic. - MattG, 2018-06-26, 11:48
        
        I think its larger than you think - DEM, 2018-06-26, 12:06
        
        Do you really think Hillary was uniquely inept? - Grantland, 2018-06-26, 12:27
        
        Got it. Trump supporters are all racists - DEM, 2018-06-26, 12:52
        
        Nah. There's just a positive correlation. - Joe, 2018-06-26, 20:31
        
        I do not necessarily think if you voted for trump you are - Grantland, 2018-06-26, 13:03
        
        Really hard to see how well a campaign allocates resources - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 12:58
        
        The Beer test seems silly - DEM, 2018-06-26, 13:06
        
        Didn't work for Aaron Burr, but it got him close... - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 13:38
        
        They put the opponent's name in their slogan. - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 12:54
        
        She was monster-ized for 10 years before 2016. - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 12:50
        
        She is a very able person who ran an inept campaign - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:45
        
        I thought she was in trouble in August - HumanRobot, 2018-06-26, 13:25
        
        I remember texting some TPG posters during the debates. - MattG, 2018-06-26, 13:32
        
        Her ground game in Michigan was a mess - CK08, 2018-06-26, 13:07
        
        Reportedly was in Florida also - Jack, 2018-06-26, 14:34
        
        A friend's daughter was a decently high level volunteer - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 13:37
        
        Hilary's resume is great. But I think she's a lousy - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 12:31
        
        Agree with that, a uniquely inept campaign. - Grantland, 2018-06-26, 12:48
        
        Speaking as someone for whom 'save the immigrants..." - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 12:14
        
        Im not defending Trump - DEM, 2018-06-26, 12:19
        
        Right. I agree. - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 12:29
        
        angry old white dudes... - HumanRobot, 2018-06-26, 13:30
        
        I would make a distinction between those who voted for Trump - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 11:44
        
        I think there's another segment, too. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2018-06-26, 10:35
        
        That Venn diagram is a perfect circle. - MattG, 2018-06-26, 10:41
        
        Agreed. - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 10:22
        
        He's outrageously popular among Republicans still - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-06-26, 10:13
        
        The Republicans aren't the majority of the country! - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:36
        
        Yep. The youngsters had to learn that you don't always - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 13:41
        
        Trump and Romney both got 3% of the vote in Detroit - CK08, 2018-06-26, 13:10
        
        If they do stay home, then I give up. - oviedoirish, 2018-06-26, 12:48
        
        Some of them are voter-suppressed - CK08, 2018-06-26, 13:08
        
        Yep. But I don't think they will - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:52
        
        I agree. - oviedoirish, 2018-06-26, 12:56
      - there's a sunk cost effect that's potentially unsettling - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 09:58
  - there's no real great historical comp for this situation - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 09:10
    - That's a great question - Jack, 2018-06-26, 09:29
- This is utterly dead on - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 08:44
- Are we there yet? - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2018-06-26, 08:32
  - We are categorically closer, that's for sure - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 08:51
  - It sure seems like it. - oviedoirish, 2018-06-26, 08:37
- Sums up my feelings quite well. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2018-06-26, 08:26

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