I appreciate the basis just fine
by Jack 
, Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 12:28 (2840 days ago) @ MattG
He also barely won the presidency, by an aggregate of 77,000 votes in 3 states. He has NOT gotten more popular since then.
I'm not sure why people don't grasp that.
And not everyone who voted for him is a) in his base and/or b) a racist.
If he loses the next time by 77,000 votes or one vote or 10 million votes, I will be happy.
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- A good article on "civility" - at least to me. -
oviedoirish,
2018-06-26, 08:22
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- This is some serious egotistical bullshit. -
OGerry,
2018-06-26, 10:25
- I don't think we should encourage people to shout at -
Joe,
2018-06-26, 18:03
- Then get out of the hospitality business. -
OGerry,
2018-06-26, 18:33
- I don't know. -
Joe,
2018-06-26, 20:30
- If a murderer rolled into my restaurant, I'd call the police -
OGerry,
2018-06-27, 06:14
- FWIW, every restaurant I see hangs a sign -
Joe I,
2018-06-27, 09:21
- I presume and hope - OGerry, 2018-06-27, 14:46
- FWIW, every restaurant I see hangs a sign -
Joe I,
2018-06-27, 09:21
- If a murderer rolled into my restaurant, I'd call the police -
OGerry,
2018-06-27, 06:14
- I don't know. -
Joe,
2018-06-26, 20:30
- Then get out of the hospitality business. -
OGerry,
2018-06-26, 18:33
- I imagine you are not one of those abortion opponents -
Mike (bart),
2018-06-26, 10:38
- It's a hypothetical to me, because I don't do that. -
OGerry,
2018-06-26, 11:03
- I'm less assured of my own personal norm than before -
Mike (bart),
2018-06-26, 11:17
- Fair enough. - OGerry, 2018-06-26, 14:12
- I'm less assured of my own personal norm than before -
Mike (bart),
2018-06-26, 11:17
- It's a hypothetical to me, because I don't do that. -
OGerry,
2018-06-26, 11:03
- I don't think we should encourage people to shout at -
Joe,
2018-06-26, 18:03
- The structural part really is key. - Publicola, 2018-06-26, 09:32
- Great Article but one sentence made me a little pause: - Grantland, 2018-06-26, 09:29
- Two Elie Wiesel quotes that I think are important to follow: - oviedoirish, 2018-06-26, 09:16
- Very sad and very true -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 09:01
- He’ll find someone else to blame for the economic problems -
Jeff (BGS),
2018-06-26, 09:29
- Harley's employees already have. - domer.mq, 2018-06-28, 05:42
- His base isn't big enough to get him elected dog catcher -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 09:36
- Many of those Obama-Trump voters -
CK08,
2018-06-26, 12:21
- Exactly. People voted for him because they felt left out -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 12:33
- Your second sentence is key - CK08, 2018-06-26, 13:04
- I agree. Especially since Harley Davidson seems to me -
BillyGoat,
2018-06-26, 12:31
- I suspect they're the first of many - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:58
- Exactly. People voted for him because they felt left out -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 12:33
- I don't think you appreciate the basis of Trump's appeal. -
MattG,
2018-06-26, 10:06
- I don't think that is true. - Bill, 2018-06-26, 14:22
- I appreciate the basis just fine - Jack, 2018-06-26, 12:28
- I think youre ignoring a large group of people -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 11:31
- I can't see that as a huge demographic. -
MattG,
2018-06-26, 11:48
- I think its larger than you think -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 12:06
- Do you really think Hillary was uniquely inept? -
Grantland,
2018-06-26, 12:27
- Got it. Trump supporters are all racists -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 12:52
- Nah. There's just a positive correlation.
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Joe,
2018-06-26, 20:31
- I do not necessarily think if you voted for trump you are - Grantland, 2018-06-26, 13:03
- Really hard to see how well a campaign allocates resources -
Mike (bart),
2018-06-26, 12:58
- The Beer test seems silly -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 13:06
- Didn't work for Aaron Burr, but it got him close... - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 13:38
- The Beer test seems silly -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 13:06
- They put the opponent's name in their slogan. - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 12:54
- Nah. There's just a positive correlation.
- She was monster-ized for 10 years before 2016. - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 12:50
- She is a very able person who ran an inept campaign -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 12:45
- I thought she was in trouble in August -
HumanRobot,
2018-06-26, 13:25
- I remember texting some TPG posters during the debates. - MattG, 2018-06-26, 13:32
- Her ground game in Michigan was a mess -
CK08,
2018-06-26, 13:07
- Reportedly was in Florida also - Jack, 2018-06-26, 14:34
- A friend's daughter was a decently high level volunteer - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 13:37
- I thought she was in trouble in August -
HumanRobot,
2018-06-26, 13:25
- Hilary's resume is great. But I think she's a lousy -
BillyGoat,
2018-06-26, 12:31
- Agree with that, a uniquely inept campaign. -
Grantland,
2018-06-26, 12:48
- Agree with that, a uniquely inept campaign.
- Got it. Trump supporters are all racists -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 12:52
- Speaking as someone for whom 'save the immigrants..." -
domer.mq,
2018-06-26, 12:14
- Im not defending Trump -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 12:19
- Right. I agree. -
domer.mq,
2018-06-26, 12:29
- angry old white dudes... - HumanRobot, 2018-06-26, 13:30
- Right. I agree. -
domer.mq,
2018-06-26, 12:29
- Im not defending Trump -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 12:19
- Do you really think Hillary was uniquely inept? -
Grantland,
2018-06-26, 12:27
- I think its larger than you think -
DEM,
2018-06-26, 12:06
- I would make a distinction between those who voted for Trump - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 11:44
- I can't see that as a huge demographic. -
MattG,
2018-06-26, 11:48
- I think there's another segment, too. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2018-06-26, 10:35
- That Venn diagram is a perfect circle. - MattG, 2018-06-26, 10:41
- Agreed. - domer.mq, 2018-06-26, 10:22
- He's outrageously popular among Republicans still -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-06-26, 10:13
- The Republicans aren't the majority of the country! -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 12:36
- Yep. The youngsters had to learn that you don't always - BillyGoat, 2018-06-26, 13:41
- Trump and Romney both got 3% of the vote in Detroit - CK08, 2018-06-26, 13:10
- If they do stay home, then I give up. -
oviedoirish,
2018-06-26, 12:48
- Some of them are voter-suppressed - CK08, 2018-06-26, 13:08
- Yep. But I don't think they will -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 12:52
- I agree. - oviedoirish, 2018-06-26, 12:56
- The Republicans aren't the majority of the country! -
Jack,
2018-06-26, 12:36
- there's a sunk cost effect that's potentially unsettling - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 09:58
- Many of those Obama-Trump voters -
CK08,
2018-06-26, 12:21
- there's no real great historical comp for this situation -
Mike (bart),
2018-06-26, 09:10
- That's a great question - Jack, 2018-06-26, 09:29
- He’ll find someone else to blame for the economic problems -
Jeff (BGS),
2018-06-26, 09:29
- This is utterly dead on -
Mike (bart),
2018-06-26, 08:44
- Are we there yet? -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-06-26, 08:32
- We are categorically closer, that's for sure - Mike (bart), 2018-06-26, 08:51
- It sure seems like it. -
oviedoirish,
2018-06-26, 08:37
- Sums up my feelings quite well. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2018-06-26, 08:26
- This is some serious egotistical bullshit. -
OGerry,
2018-06-26, 10:25