Joyce Carol Oates weighs in on Wilson's review
“Rather than disagreeing with interpretations of Homer in a collegial manner,” said Oates, “this person, who has benefited enormously from Nolan’s film, speaks in the crude language of Maga folks attacking someone with ideas that differ from hers.
“One would expect a translator, of all people, beholden to a text, in service to a text, to be just a wee bit more thoughtful and respectful of others who are acting in good faith just as (she would claim) she is.”
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jul/30/maga-joyce-carol-oates-criticises-emily-wi...
Of course, Oates was just tweeting about how much she loved the 1997 Hallmark Channel movie of the Odyssey, so make of this what you will.
Complete thread:
- Emily Wilson critique of the Odyssey -
Jay,
2026-07-27, 12:23
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- Joyce Carol Oates weighs in on Wilson's review - HCE, 2026-07-30, 08:09
- ha - Jay, 2026-07-29, 12:00
- I saw it today and I'd give it a B plus -- - omahadomer, 2026-07-28, 20:39
- Who knew that there are Odyssey fundamentalists -
Jack,
2026-07-28, 18:40
- What is suprising to you? - OGerry, 2026-07-29, 09:51
- I just discovered this Huppke guy recently - BPH, 2026-07-29, 08:13
- What does she know about it? -
OGerry,
2026-07-27, 17:19
- I didn’t care for it, for some of her reasons -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 08:48
- You just don’t like Zendaya
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HumanRobot,
2026-07-28, 15:35
- Theaters have been packed - OGerry, 2026-07-28, 12:27
- I really enjoyed it and plan to see it again in 70mm IMAX -
Dallasdomer,
2026-07-28, 10:39
- I am really glad he made it -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 11:52
- That’s about where I am -
Jack,
2026-07-28, 18:56
- When do you think he most stayed out of his way? -
BPH,
2026-07-28, 11:56
- to go back in time -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 13:40
- I might be alone, but Memento only works slightly... - PMan, 2026-07-28, 15:05
- Good stuff. I actually remember that thread -
BPH,
2026-07-28, 13:50
- I find Inception to be his most rewatchable -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-07-28, 15:42
- I didn’t list the Batman movies in that thread - Jay, 2026-07-28, 16:24
- I find Inception to be his most rewatchable -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-07-28, 15:42
- to go back in time -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 13:40
- That’s about where I am
- I am really glad he made it -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 11:52
- Stylistic critiques are one thing -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-28, 09:41
- I don’t read that at all -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 11:41
- I think she treats the film as if it were a student paper - HCE, 2026-07-28, 12:15
- The LRB is a shark publication - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-28, 11:55
- I don’t read that at all -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 11:41
- Oof, "oppressive soundtrack" -
Joe I,
2026-07-28, 08:56
- it’s also blatantly manipulative -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 09:03
- Someone who also didn’t like Dunkirk? - San Pedro, 2026-07-28, 09:43
- it’s also blatantly manipulative -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 09:03
- I'm shocked his brother Jon wasn't apparently involved -
BillyGoat,
2026-07-28, 08:51
- is he the one who went to Georgetown -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 09:05
- Yep. We were friends at school, but he lived about - BillyGoat, 2026-07-28, 09:23
- is he the one who went to Georgetown -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 09:05
- You just don’t like Zendaya
- I didn’t care for it, for some of her reasons -
Jay,
2026-07-28, 08:48
- The food probably was horrible? -
nedhead,
2026-07-27, 14:46
- Every time I watch a King’s feast in a medieval film -
San Pedro,
2026-07-27, 16:15
- Roman cities had a ton of tavernas -
beattherush,
2026-07-27, 16:47
- But there was also a host of food borne illnesses - Jack, 2026-07-28, 18:59
- Good point. -
San Pedro,
2026-07-28, 09:44
- "Tasting History" can be pretty entertaining. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2026-07-27, 16:25
- Very cool. There’s a recent episode on the Odyssey. -
San Pedro,
2026-07-27, 16:43
- All I can think of is that -
Mark,
2026-07-27, 16:28
- Agreed. Must have been huge. -
San Pedro,
2026-07-27, 16:41
- Agreed. Must have been huge.
- Very cool. There’s a recent episode on the Odyssey.
- Roman cities had a ton of tavernas -
beattherush,
2026-07-27, 16:47
- Every time I watch a King’s feast in a medieval film -
San Pedro,
2026-07-27, 16:15
- It’s odd given that her translation inspired Nolan - Dallasdomer, 2026-07-27, 14:46
- Yeah this is just dumb. - KelleyCook, 2026-07-27, 14:40
- There are valid criticisms. That’s not one of them. - beattherush, 2026-07-27, 14:05
- I mean, that whole paragraph is wrong on its face - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-27, 13:50
- Very interesting stuff. Also, meh... -
HCE,
2026-07-27, 13:33
- I was imagining the film in the hands of other directors - Jay, 2026-07-27, 13:41
- It's been boiled down to < 3 hours of material. -
KGB,
2026-07-27, 13:38
- That's pretty much my view. - oviedoirish, 2026-07-27, 13:46
- FWIW, there's stuff in the poem that no one needs -
HCE,
2026-07-27, 13:46
- Wasn't it implied that he did? It just wasn't shown. -
oviedoirish,
2026-07-27, 13:48
- FYI, that was Calypso, not Circe -
HCE,
2026-07-27, 13:54
- I was trying to figure out why he left Calypso -
beattherush,
2026-07-27, 16:06
- Oh the horror! To be marooned with a servile Charlize Theron -
KelleyCook,
2026-07-27, 16:17
- Well, Anne Hathaway ain’t chopped liver -
Jack,
2026-07-28, 19:03
- Heh. -
KGB,
2026-07-27, 18:55
- My close reading of the text - OGerry, 2026-07-28, 08:22
- Well, Anne Hathaway ain’t chopped liver
- Oh the horror! To be marooned with a servile Charlize Theron
- Oh yeah, I mixed them up. -
oviedoirish,
2026-07-27, 14:25
- I was trying to figure out why he left Calypso
- After seeing the movie - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-27, 13:52
- FYI, that was Calypso, not Circe -
HCE,
2026-07-27, 13:54
- Wasn't it implied that he did? It just wasn't shown. -
oviedoirish,
2026-07-27, 13:48