I think he's dominant *in moments* at 39
which, lest anyone mistunderstand my position, is absolutely part of his genius. Zlatan said for him the greatest ever is Messi and there's no discussion to be had, because what makes Messi great is that he sees the game on another plane from everyone else. He's able to be effective at 39 not because his level of play is so consistently higher than everyone else's, but rather because he knows where the highest-leverage moments are and he turns it on in the right place at the right time to meet those moments.
His footy IQ is absolutely off the charts insanely high, and that's what has always separated him from everyone else. In his prime it let him put up absurd goal scoring numbers because he could also run all over everyone for 90 minutes. At this stage he can't be the fastest guy on the field for the full 90 anymore, but he can pick the exact five moments where if he's faster than you for five seconds it's lethal.
Came across a really good video recently too where a mathematician explained that Messi's "gravity" changes the geometry of the pitch. It's not just his individual brilliance, it's that the entire shape of the game shifts because of how much attention he draws and how effectively he lures defenders out of position.
People make fun of him walking or even standing on the pitch and... well... yeah, that's the point man. He leads the Golden Boot race over Mbappe, 12 years his junior, and Haaland, 14 years his junior. Ronaldo runs around plenty, but until he had a brace against lowly Uzbekistan in the group stage, Ronaldo hasn't scored from the run of play for Portugal in five years. I care more about the goals than the running.
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Complete thread:
- FU: So, whom are you all rooting for now? -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 08:41
- it's coming home
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Jay,
2026-07-11, 18:24
- The Wire of God.
-
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-12, 04:39
- VAR ignoring Pickford… -
PMan,
2026-07-12, 13:44
- I don't think that was a confrontation with Odegaard. -
ndroman21,
2026-07-13, 09:50
- He did it multiple times during the lead-in and aftermath... -
PMan,
2026-07-13, 10:13
- Ah...the one I saw was with Odegaard. - ndroman21, 2026-07-13, 10:39
- He did it multiple times during the lead-in and aftermath... -
PMan,
2026-07-13, 10:13
- I don't think that was a confrontation with Odegaard. -
ndroman21,
2026-07-13, 09:50
- VAR ignoring Pickford… -
PMan,
2026-07-12, 13:44
- Damn. The Argentina Vs Swiss game - hobbs, 2026-07-11, 20:05
- Yeah, I've heard that one before
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HCE,
2026-07-11, 18:26
- The Wire of God.
- A well-timed Trump tweet re Kane -
atxND,
2026-07-11, 07:01
- gross
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KGB,
2026-07-11, 10:47
- Ronaldo too - Chris, 2026-07-11, 10:13
- gross
- Mbappe's just scored -
IrishGuard,
2026-07-09, 14:30
- Yes, they use one world feed for the WC -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 14:54
- Or doesn't show, as the case may be
-
IrishGuard,
2026-07-09, 15:03
- Or doesn't show, as the case may be
- Yes, they use one world feed for the WC -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 14:54
- Norway - Haaland is a HUGE Caniac and that's good enough.
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Chris,
2026-07-09, 09:34
- If Norway can manage to win -
Jack,
2026-07-09, 11:21
- Without looking, I'm comfortable saying Haaland is the best -
Brendan,
2026-07-09, 12:05
- I’m a soccer dilettante, but - Jack, 2026-07-10, 15:45
- Without looking, I'm comfortable saying Haaland is the best -
Brendan,
2026-07-09, 12:05
- Agree - love Haaland. - KGB, 2026-07-09, 10:48
- Dan Burn needs to have a game -
hobbs,
2026-07-09, 09:50
- Dan Burn can't stop Haaland. Nobody can -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 10:07
- That goal over Gabriel was ridiculous - Brendan, 2026-07-09, 11:47
- Haaland first goal against Brazil speaks to your point -
hobbs,
2026-07-09, 10:29
- Yeah, he does stuff like that every week -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 12:06
- Funniest soccer video Ive seen lately -
Mark,
2026-07-09, 18:04
- Roy Keane ended Alfie Haaland's career -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-10, 04:28
- It’s a wild story. -
San Pedro,
2026-07-10, 06:16
- Its still playing out today -
Mark,
2026-07-10, 08:12
- It's such a great, long held grudge. Keane is a nut.
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San Pedro,
2026-07-13, 11:16
- It's such a great, long held grudge. Keane is a nut.
- Almost a different sport back then. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-10, 06:32
- Its still playing out today -
Mark,
2026-07-10, 08:12
- It’s a wild story. -
San Pedro,
2026-07-10, 06:16
- Roy Keane ended Alfie Haaland's career -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-10, 04:28
- Quansah given 2 game suspension for his red. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-09, 13:11
- Funniest soccer video Ive seen lately -
Mark,
2026-07-09, 18:04
- Yeah, he does stuff like that every week -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 12:06
- Dan Burn can't stop Haaland. Nobody can -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 10:07
- If Norway can manage to win -
Jack,
2026-07-09, 11:21
- You soccer aficionados probably already know this - BPH, 2026-07-09, 09:31
- I like the idea of anyone new winning it. - PMan, 2026-07-09, 09:19
- Anyone but England
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HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-09, 08:58
- what’s the beef -
Jay,
2026-07-09, 09:39
- Isn't that enough?
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Dylan,
2026-07-09, 13:59
- I don't like anything about them -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-09, 12:43
- 100%
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Savage,
2026-07-09, 12:55
- 100%
- This English team is full of good dudes. -
San Pedro,
2026-07-09, 10:10
- Rice played for The Boys in Green and then abandoned them - Savage, 2026-07-09, 12:54
- I quite liked that 2021 England team - HCE, 2026-07-09, 12:14
- Yep. Kane's dad's from Galway, Rice's grandparents from Cork - Jack, 2026-07-09, 11:14
- Isn't that enough?
- what’s the beef -
Jay,
2026-07-09, 09:39
- Vive la France!
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Dylan,
2026-07-09, 08:54
- Also leaning that way -
Jack,
2026-07-09, 11:19
- He won it in 2018, just FYI - HCE, 2026-07-09, 11:22
- Yeah. I think France & Argentina are the most complete teams -
hobbs,
2026-07-09, 09:45
- Not sure how "complete" Argentina is -
BPH,
2026-07-09, 09:57
- Let me amend that. IMO ARG is the most complete team - hobbs, 2026-07-09, 10:20
- They're not complete at all. Completely fortunate so far.
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San Pedro,
2026-07-09, 10:11
- Their run defies all logic -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 10:21
- Yeah, but politically as Argentina's NT Coach - hobbs, 2026-07-09, 10:55
- I don't care for Messi, but his record is insane. -
San Pedro,
2026-07-09, 10:27
- I think he's dominant *in moments* at 39 - Brendan, 2026-07-09, 11:42
- Their run defies all logic -
HCE,
2026-07-09, 10:21
- Not sure how "complete" Argentina is -
BPH,
2026-07-09, 09:57
- Also leaning that way -
Jack,
2026-07-09, 11:19
- it's coming home