We are in "Imperial Overstretch" --
a term coined, I think, by Yale historian Paul Kennedy in "The Rise and Fall of Great Powers." The phenomenon (I'd call it a "theory" but it's too well established to be called just that) is that great powers expand past the point where their underlying productivity and capacity can maintain their commitments and begin to retract -- sometimes in spectacular collapses. The Mongols, the Romans, the Ottamans, the Dutch, the French, the British, the Soviet Union -- they all went splat.
The best you can hope for is an orderly contraction. But inevitably there comes a foolish leader who thinks he can restore the empire to its former glory and fails utterly.
We have met the enemy and they is Trump and MAGA (with apologies to Pogo).
Despite Trump's isolationist rhetoric, his underlying promise was that he'd restore the U.S. to the height of its post-WWII dominance on the world stage. Being a man utterly without a sense of history (consider, for example, that "America First" was a slogan perpetuated by pro-German Americans who wanted to keep the U.S. out of WWII) he inevitably was going to fall into the trap of thinking he could project dominance just through military might.
The only surprise to me is that it took this long. But it's not a surprise that he picked the worst possible place in the world -- the Middle East. Not that we'll know, but 500 years from now the tribalism there will still be going on.
It would have been so much better just to have stayed out of it, because he exposed America's soft underbelly. Iran is emboldened because we lack the resources and will to, for example, keep the Strait of Hormuz open. That would have required a ground invasion and even that would have either failed (Afghanistan) or been insanely expensive in lives and money (Iraq) with mixed results.
This MOU will ultimately be meaningless. The fool that is Trump is now hearing it even from GOP congressional sycophants that this is a horrible deal, even from our weakened perspective.
We'll inevitably walk away with out metaphorical tail between our legs.
--
"Somewhere in Middle America"
Complete thread:
- The terms of the US's surrender in the Iran war are stark. -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 09:03
- We are in "Imperial Overstretch" -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-20, 08:37
- He would have done better to just skulk away. -
domer.mq,
2026-06-20, 19:36
- We tried that. -
nedhead,
2026-06-21, 01:11
- Which is the case right now.
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domer.mq,
2026-06-21, 13:53
- Sustainable for months, probably not longer. - nedhead, 2026-06-21, 14:38
- I’m surprised that anyone thinks this likely would’ve all -
Joe I,
2026-06-21, 14:20
- I thought it would go badly -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-21, 21:10
- Hegseth’s biggest challenge isn’t his IQ -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 07:42
- he was in my cousin’s platoon in Iraq -
Jay,
2026-06-22, 10:53
- Douglas C. Neidermeyer, Sergeant at Arms.
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San Pedro,
2026-06-23, 16:09
- Wouldn't he be more like Stratton?
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nedhead,
2026-06-23, 17:31
- Wouldn't he be more like Stratton?
- I think we all take your meaning.
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NDinVA,
2026-06-23, 15:02
- Douglas C. Neidermeyer, Sergeant at Arms.
- I rate his Ivy-intelligence score at 0.87 DeSantis
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KGB,
2026-06-22, 09:32
- One of the beauties of grad school is meeting Ivy Leaguers -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 10:19
- One of the beauties of meeting Ivy League law grads - omahadomer, 2026-06-22, 18:03
- One of the beauties of grad school is meeting Ivy Leaguers -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 10:19
- he was in my cousin’s platoon in Iraq -
Jay,
2026-06-22, 10:53
- Hegseth’s biggest challenge isn’t his IQ -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 07:42
- I thought it would go badly -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-21, 21:10
- Which is the case right now.
- We tried that. -
nedhead,
2026-06-21, 01:11
- He would have done better to just skulk away. -
domer.mq,
2026-06-20, 19:36
- Are these two paragraphs distinguishing energy v. weapons? - Grantland, 2026-06-19, 06:16
- Sounds like they went easy on us - fightinamish, 2026-06-18, 19:51
- I heard someone describe it as late-empire rome - MattG, 2026-06-18, 12:33
- What a joke! - oviedoirish, 2026-06-18, 12:32
- What does the $300B buy us? -
San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 09:41
- I'd like to know exactly WHOSE $300Billion that is.
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BillyGoat,
2026-06-19, 09:12
- Mine. Yours. And everyone else's.
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Chris,
2026-06-19, 10:10
- Just think though, Musk cold give $300 billion to Iran -
NDinVA,
2026-06-19, 18:56
- Then he could yank the SEC around a little bit - Regular Joseph, 2026-06-19, 21:07
- Just think though, Musk cold give $300 billion to Iran -
NDinVA,
2026-06-19, 18:56
- Me too.
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San Pedro,
2026-06-19, 09:15
- Mine. Yours. And everyone else's.
- Some GOP nitwit used the term "Peace in our time" - Jack, 2026-06-19, 09:03
- If someone has their knee on your neck - atxND, 2026-06-18, 19:08
- Peace? -
nedhead,
2026-06-18, 18:37
- Don’t pull the thang out unless you plan to bang -
atxND,
2026-06-19, 19:47
- fight the civil war until -
Regular Joseph,
2026-06-19, 21:21
- Oh, I probably agree with you ultimately - atxND, 2026-06-20, 06:33
- fight the civil war until -
Regular Joseph,
2026-06-19, 21:21
- The better alternative... -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 19:50
- Sure, but we can't go back in time.
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nedhead,
2026-06-18, 19:52
- Was Hiroshima a tolerable outcome for Japan -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 05:34
- I don't understand this line of argument. -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 06:07
- The reparations paid would be obscene -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 11:17
- Would you rather try to keep the cease fire indefinitely, -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 15:43
- I would rather that the inflamed hemorrhoid in charge - KGB, 2026-06-19, 16:32
- He’s already started his Throw JD Vance Under the Bus tour - Joe I, 2026-06-19, 14:42
- Would you rather try to keep the cease fire indefinitely, -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 15:43
- The reparations paid would be obscene -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 11:17
- I don't understand this line of argument. -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 06:07
- Was Hiroshima a tolerable outcome for Japan -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 05:34
- Sure, but we can't go back in time.
- Don’t pull the thang out unless you plan to bang -
atxND,
2026-06-19, 19:47
- It buys us Trump’s attempt at development deals - Joe I, 2026-06-18, 12:21
- Its helps secure Iran’s new young extremist leader. -
Mark,
2026-06-18, 10:00
- This doesn’t address my question.
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San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 12:19
- This doesn’t address my question.
- It buys us not having our Oil reserves go to 0 next month.
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domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 09:53
- Our oil reserves are nearly empty? -
San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 12:18
- as I have learned recently, it's a complex question -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 12:29
- I guess taking over Venezuela - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2026-06-18, 12:54
- as I have learned recently, it's a complex question -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 12:29
- Our oil reserves are nearly empty? -
San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 12:18
- I'd like to know exactly WHOSE $300Billion that is.
- We are in "Imperial Overstretch" -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-20, 08:37