Pumping the brakes on the offense a bit.

by Larz, Tuesday, July 28, 2026, 19:07 (15 hours, 16 minutes ago)

Like all of you, I'm excited about the upcoming ND football season! ND has been generating a lot of positive buzz this offseason and there are good reasons for that. We have a potentially elite defense, a returning starter at QB, a talented roster, a reasonable schedule and a coaching staff that seems to be humming on many, if not all cylinders.

Although there are plenty of reasons to be excited, I do think the conversation (on social media, the traditional media and the ND beats) around the offense has been a little too optimistic. While it is exciting to have a very talented starting QB coming back and many key members of the coaching staff returning, there are significant questions to be answered at each of level of the offense. In my experience the more questions you have going into the season, the more difficult it is to have sustained success during the season. In my view, here are a few of the key questions:

QB - The obvious one, who is going to be the backup? Hopefully this never actually becomes an important question. I think the under the radar question is: how long will it take for CJ Carr to adjust to having to do more to move the offense?

OL - There is a tendency to assume the ND OL will be good coming into every season because we've had a lot of success at the position and typically recruit well. This year is no exception to that. I think there is reason to be optimistic, but I think we need to wait and see. When you step back and look at it, there is actually very little experience on this Oline. While Knapp has a lot of starts, none of them are at guard, I believe Lambert has the second most starts but none of them at tackle. All the other projected starters have limited starts and experience (A. Craig's return could change this). I think it is really good that coming out of spring, most of the OL is in place for the upcoming year as they need as many reps as possible to come together as a unit. Given the lack of experience and position changes on the line, I think the key question for this group is: how long will it take them to gel as a unit?

TE - Outside of Washington, there is very limited playing experience in this group and thus far Washington has struggled as both a blocker and a receiver, which is less than ideal for a TE. The biggest question is who is going to catch the ball from his group? To date, no one on the roster has shown the ability to consistently get open and catch the ball at the P4 level.

RB - Pretty obvious here, we lost two first round RB's. While Williams has shown promise, there are a lot of unproven players here and they have done little to nothing as college football RB's.

WR - I think the biggest questions on offense and the entire team reside with the WR group. For the record, I hope they do well, but I am skeptical. I hope they can turn into a productive group, I'm just not convinced at this time and need to see it before I believe it. We can reasonably expect Jordan Faison will have good year (and maybe even a very good year), he's been a productive player consistently at this level for the past few years. After that, there is no one even close. I know people will say Greathouse, but in my view he hasn't produced consistently, even when healthy. From there, no one has produced at this level of football. In 2025 we had at least three players who had already been productive college WRs (Faison, Fields, Pauling - you could include Greathouse, but I wouldn't). This year we have 1.Unless he turns into Curt Henning overnight (obscure reference alert), CJ Carr is going to need someone to throw the ball to as he can't throw it to himself. I think there should be far more concern about this group. I hope they end up doing well and if they do you can post this later and say, see Larz you didn't have a clue! I think there is an assumption right now that we will have a productive, explosive group of WR's. I would caution buying into that narrative until we see what they do on the field. On a bit of a side note, I think Graham has more work to do before he meets the expectations people currently have for him. I'll save the reasons why for another post if anyone is interested, I would just say in spring he looked to me like he has a lot of work to do to refine his game.

I'm still excited about the season, I think the defense could be exceptional and I think the offense really has the potential to grow. Fortunately, the schedule will provide some time for the offense to gel and I think we have a really good offensive coaching staff. But man there are a lot of questions that need to be answered on that side of the ball. I know we will have some answers, just not sure how many answers we will have and how long it will take for those answers to emerge.

Regardless, looking forward to the season and despite this little bit of pessimism, hope everyone enjoys the excitement that comes with a new season of college football. Go Irish!

I agree that replacing Love and Price

by John @, Northeast Pennsylvania / NYC, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 08:08 (2 hours, 15 minutes ago) @ Larz

is significant and sufficient to dampen the enthusiasm. I also agree that several of the O-line players/pieces will be at new positions. Another significant question is if perhaps the most talented OL (Jagusah) will even play this season.

All the above being stated, there are 6 players on the O-line (including Jagusah) with starting experience. The total # of previous starts = 64. Perhaps more importantly, there are approximately, 4,000 career snaps returning on the o-line. That's significant. Similarly, there are 3 TEs returning with previous playing experience. FlanAgan has 26 career starts and over 400 career snaps, Wash has 33 previous starts and approx. 250 career snaps and FlanIgan has over 50 career snaps. The total returning snaps at TE is > 700. Again, that's significant.

Counterpoint

by HumanRobot @, Cybertron, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 07:59 (2 hours, 24 minutes ago) @ Larz

I agree we are losing some superior players from last year's squad: Love, Price, Fields, Pauling, and Raridon were all really great players.

My feeling on 2025 was that we had a big play offense that played off the strengths of those big time players. However, it bogged down because Denbrock and company struggled to assemble schemes and concepts with natural constraints. My hope is that in 2026 we'll have a lot more confidence in the QB to execute those types of things and despite perhaps reduced overall talent, we'll have a more productive offense particularly in "gotta have it" type situations.

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One thing that keeps getting lost in the shuffle re: QB

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 08:46 (1 hours, 37 minutes ago) @ HumanRobot
edited by KGB, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 09:40

is that this will be the first time in six (6!) years that ND's offense will have the benefit of a returning starter at quarterback. That is not normal! Particularly for a successful, high-level program, even in this portal-crazy era. We have been living year-to-year so long with breaking in the next guy, often combined with a new OC, that I think we've lost lock on just how much value there is in having OC/QB alignment from one season to the next.

IMO that is the biggest reason to be excited about the offense in 2026.

2020 - Ian Book
2021 - Jack Coan
2022 - Tyler Buchner/Drew Pyne
2023 - Sam Hartman
2024 - Riley Leonard
2025 - CJ Carr
2026 - CJ Carr (!)

And now look at what Denbrock did

by BPH, San Diego, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 09:10 (1 hours, 13 minutes ago) @ KGB

in his second year at LSU with Daniels. I'm not saying we have Nabers and Brian Thomas at receiver, but there's a bunch of raw material for the OC and QB to wreak major havoc.

Ultimately, here's the thing....

by BillyGoat @, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 09:33 (50 minutes ago) @ BPH

We've often been in a position at this time of year where we have said "Well, if X can step up or Y develops, we will be good."

In most of those years, the only options to step up were X or Y.

Now, we need a boundary receiver. OK. Gilbert might have first crack at it. But if he doesn't work out, Greathouse might get a look. Or Porter. Or Devin Fitzgerald. Or Cam Williams. In prior years, we needed to bat 1.000. This year, we need to bat like .300 (we need one lead guy and a good backup).

I have zero doubt that Cooper Flanigan will be an improvement as a blocker. But I don't know that "starting fights" translates into "chain-moving weapon." Well, he will have James Flanagan and probably Premer pushing him hard in his receiving skills and taking some of those opportunities.

Obviously, having a QB like Carr is a giant help on this front. He's a guy who can make his receivers better.

And then throw in Denbrock, a proven top five (at least) OC. And moreover, one who isn't a one-trick pony schematically. He has succeeded with multiple styles, and been able to adjust to match the strengths of his personnel.

Finally, there hasn't been as much discussion about leadership on offense. That's been in short supply the last few years, at least outside of the OL. I mean, Pauling walked in the door and became a captain. Obviously, Carr as a returning starting QB, sets the tone -- and it sounds like he has strong leadership qualities. There's Knapp and Craig on the OL. But now, there's a guy like Flanigan at TE, who is going to be a tone-setter, if not a vocal leader. By all accounts, Faison has emerged as a very strong leader. And it sure seems like Ayneas has a lot of leadership qualities, too. Ultimately, the offense will need to be greater than the sum of its parts. And that's more likely to happen with strong leadership.

Great post, other than reversing the Flani(a)gans

by BPH, San Diego, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 09:44 (39 minutes ago) @ BillyGoat

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I can't believe I did that (Flan)again.

by BillyGoat @, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 09:57 (26 minutes ago) @ BPH

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Counterpoint

by HumanRobot @, Cybertron, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 07:54 (2 hours, 29 minutes ago) @ Larz

CHOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Destination: GLORY!

by Joe I @, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 08:04 (2 hours, 18 minutes ago) @ HumanRobot

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All reasonable concerns

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 02:24 (7 hours, 58 minutes ago) @ Larz
edited by KGB, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 02:44

but the shape of the schedule works in that unit's favor this season, and Denbrock has a long history of figuring things out in situations where he was almost never working with the same set of chess pieces.

The OL in particular is an interesting case, bc as you noted, "returning starts" is somewhat deceiving when two of your most experienced players are shifting to new roles. Feels like a "one step back to take three forward" situation. A lot hinges on just how much of a prodigy Will Black actually proves to be at LT. The speed & decisiveness with which Rudolph moved a multi-year starter off that spot in the spring suggests Alt-level potential. And based on how his first season played out (true frosh vs. redshirt for Black, it should be noted), I don't anticipate immediate dominance. But I do think we'll be locked in and really moving people by the time the team travels to Provo in October.

At receiver, I have to push back on Greathouse bc a lot of his inconsistency in '24 boiled down to QB play and how slowly Denbrock brought Leonard along as the season unfolded. If you look back at Greathouse's numbers, a strong case could be made that he was woefully underutilized within the offense. His contested catch rate was stellar -- over 80%, one of the highest of any receiver nationally -- and he dropped only one pass all season. He was limited by lack of need due to the dominance of the defense, but when ND fell behind multiple times in the playoffs against better competition and the offense suddenly had to get more aggressive, Greathouse stepped up in a major way. If healthy (significant qualifier, I know), he's looking at a bounceback very similar to the one enjoyed by Faison in 2025, who also was slept on coming off a season largely lost to injury.

At TE, Cooper Flanagan is in the Greathouse boat of being somewhat overlooked now, but he got a lot of high-value snaps during the long championship run of 2024. He won't make anyone forget Mike Mayer in the receiving game, but I think that his absence last season as a stallworth (h/t Diaco) on the blocking front was underrated even among those who follow the team closely.

There are two other points I want to make in support of the offense, which interlock to a certain extent. On the recruiting front, ND has clearly leveled up in a way that makes comparing the current situation to recent history dubious, IMO. We can say that there's not a TE on the roster who has yet proven the ability to get open, but we can also say that ND has not had unproven players at the position quite like Ian Premer. Even James Flanigan is of a higher caliber than basically anyone we've landed over the last decade outside of Mayer. The potential for one of them to carve out a significant role as a first-year player with a QB as gifted as Carr is favorable. At that position and the rest, the talent that Freeman has accumulated across the roster since his arrival implicitly demands a higher level of play from everyone who takes the field, one snap at a time.

The other point is the old saw about iron sharpening iron. If everyone agrees that our defense will land somewhere between great and flat-out dominant, then the unit which has already battled them in the spring and will continue going H2H throughout the fall will ultimately benefit from facing that caliber of play at all three levels every week. It is highly doubtful that anyone in the offensive group will match off against better players outside their own roster until the CFP, with the possible exception of Miami (and only then at certain spots). This sort of stress testing will serve both to expose any weaknesses and force the players and sub-units on offense to raise their level of play to meet that standard of competition.

Good stuff KGB

by Larz, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 07:54 (2 hours, 29 minutes ago) @ KGB

I am really looking forward to watching the OL. I think we could see that group really grow over the course of the season. As for Black, I think he is Canadian, so we have that going for us :) certainly hoping he continues the tradition of great LT play we’ve enjoyed for many years.

In terms of Greathouse, I hope you are right, nothing against him, I hope he’s healthy this year and has an excellent season. I’m just not sure he has the physical gifts to be an elite receiver. But, no doubt the coaching staff thinks highly of him and they know a lot more than I do!

Great to be talking fb with you again

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 09:38 (45 minutes ago) @ Larz

with visible light at the end of the tunnel!

Good stuff, a couple of riffs

by Mike (bart), Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 01:55 (8 hours, 28 minutes ago) @ Larz
edited by Mike (bart), Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 02:02

First off, generally agree that the picture on offense actually feels quite murky.

The bulk of that feeling is driven by the unknowns at WR along with what you point out as a new paradigm for Carr. The rightful terror defenses had of the RBs along with athletic excellence of Fields (and to a lesser extent Rairdon) helped create some very straightforward reads for Carr. He would be choosing between either single coverage on quite athletic receivers (or a really fair technical guy like Pauling) or, reading a three-deep scheme (which, to be fair, he did a great job of with regularity), or being able to hand the ball off to a 1st Round RB against a two high shell

USC had a terrible game plan against us, but they did stymie Carr by constantly making him navigate 6 and 7 man coverages (in fairness it was raining). Those 6/7 man back ends are going to be the norm, now, and certainly with a less reliable/predictable defense against Faison in particular -- way fewer of those 10-12 yard free access pitches and catches to be had when the defense can actually put a safety on each hash. It's going to be a lot tougher on CJ this year

Further, given the backup QB situation, Carr is going to have to be very judicious about when he runs the ball. There just aren't going to be very many layups.

One area where I'd say I'm way more optimistic than you are, though, would be TE. I felt like Cooper Flanagan showed out really well as a blocker in 2024, especially against some good teams like Texas A&M, UGA, Louisville, etc. I'd have to go back but I think he may have been our best blocking TE in 2023 as well. Much, much better and more versatile blocker than Rairdon. To me, he's maybe the X factor of the entire offense aside from "#2 Receiver X." If you can't regularly even up numbers on the ground by running your QB (especially in critical situations), you need to be have a TE who really wins as a blocker, otherwise defenses can live in 2-high on every down and your life offensively is going to be very frustrating. Price and Love negated a lot of this problem via their explosiveness (and the threats thereof) but the irrational pit I would get in my stomach when we got to 2nd and 2? That was driven in no small part by the mismatch between Rairdon's skill set and our ability to run Carr.

Additionally, for as explosive as we were, there was a lot of less than ideal stuff going on last year when it came to our run blocking options. I remember us running counter or split zone with, like, Will Pauling coming across the formation. Flanagan's ability to both target as well as move people will create a lot of options for better play setups. Additionally, I think with Knapp moving inside you get opportunities for stuff like Power or Down G concepts that can create easier blocks for everyone else while taking advantage of Knapp's athleticism and power in the run game. We didn't really have a go to guy in the run game like that last year, and I think it showed at times

We just desperately need WR to not be a mess for the 6th year out of the last 7 or whatever. If we can find a really good #2 and #3, we have the pieces to be a complete offense by the time the playoffs roll around. In some ways an even more complete (if not as explosive) as what we had last year

The coaches love “Coop”

by Dallasdomer, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 04:18 (6 hours, 5 minutes ago) @ Mike (bart)

If you listen to Freeman and Denbock, they gush over Cooper Flanagan’s blocking and competitive fire. I think he was badly missed last year in short yardage. Could have been the difference in one of the first two games, even. He will move the chains as a receiver.

I’m repeating myself but A. Williams is as good or better than Price and a better receiver out of the backfield.
The WR needs to produce a consistent player outside of Faison but, like Coop, there have been raves about Graham. The boundary guy remains in doubt.

There were two guys in spring ball causing fights

by beattherush, Chicago, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 07:41 (2 hours, 42 minutes ago) @ Dallasdomer

Adon Shuler and Cooper Flanagan. That suggests Flanagan’s competitive fire is high..

I expect a much more authoritative OL and TE this year. Fewer explosives, but a lot more consistent running game.

Pair that with multiple receivers who are solid and a Carr with a year of running the offense under his belt and I have high expectations.

Point taken about the defensive setups Carr will face. I have faith in his ability to dissect whatever is thrown at him. For all some of the talking heads bemoan Carr’s occasional risky play, his TD/INT was 24/6.

I agree with all the concerns posted and you guys know more football than me. I just look at the breadth of options available to Carr in 2026 and they are almost assuredly broader than 2025. That bodes well for our QB known for his playbook depth.

Carr's risky plays were magnified.

by San Pedro @, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 08:01 (2 hours, 21 minutes ago) @ beattherush

Because they came in the red zone and against top competition. I think he's up to the task, will be fun to see.

TE blocking is probably the most underrated element of

by Mike (bart), Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 06:10 (4 hours, 13 minutes ago) @ Dallasdomer

offensive success. Tommy Tremble, for instance, was one of the top 3 most valuable guys on that 2020 offense, even if he only caught 19 passes

We get to ease into the season for once --

by omahadomer, Tuesday, July 28, 2026, 20:25 (13 hours, 58 minutes ago) @ Larz

Yes, I know we've had early season disasters, though they came after huge games.

We don't have to open with a rookie QB, on the road, against what turned out to be the national runner-up. So we'll presumably have more of a chance to assess personnel.

Carr was the right choice at QB, but I honestly think we might have beaten Miami with Minchey. They had the training wheels on Carr and Minchey could've made more off-schedule plays. So it goes.

QB: Yes, we need a true back-up and a true third-string guy. Somebody has to take reps with the 2nd team and somebody has to run the scout team. Fair enough.

OL: It's not like we have five returning starters, but in the portal era nobody of significance has 5 returning starters. I think we're deep enough and have enough position flexibility that the line will probably be a bit better than last year. Maybe a lot better. Get a rash of injuries, then maybe not as good.

RB: It's a fair point when you lose two first round picks. But I'm a big fan of Williams and watching that PSU game again I get to be a bigger fan. At least one of those guys behind him might be the next Love. But that's a legitimate concern.

TE: We haven't really had a TE who was a huge weapon since Mayer. Raridon was a good player. If we get major production out of that position it will be an upgrade.

WR: This is widely considered the weakest group on the offense but it was last year too. Fields and Pauling were nice players and Fields gave us a big bodied guy of the kind I like who can keep the chains moving. I think we'll get an upgrade here mostly because we're starting from a relatively low level and Carr can throw guys open like nobody probably since Clausen (and Carr has a much stronger arm).

I suspect we'll probably score at least as much as last year, in part due to the schedule. I think we'll see what we've really got when we play BYU and Miami.

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This is Trent Dilfer all over again

by Domer99, John Wesley Powell's Expedition Island, Tuesday, July 28, 2026, 20:08 (14 hours, 14 minutes ago) @ Larz

The defense should be so good that it just needs the offense not to mess up. Despite how good we think CJ Carr will be.

Can't win like that in modern football. Gotta score to win..

by BillyGoat @, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 09:58 (24 minutes ago) @ Domer99
edited by BillyGoat, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 10:02

Especially against elite opponents.

History says the offense has to be able to get 30+ on the board against an elite D.

(1) This thread is great

by Mark, Wednesday, July 29, 2026, 06:16 (4 hours, 7 minutes ago) @ Domer99

Just a super fun read first thing in the morning.

(2) I agree on the defense. Ive moved my chips all in for this year’s defense. They will be either great or legendary. And with the chips on their shoulders they should be playing with … (after how the Big Ten and the SEC F’d ND) … they should bring the lumber straight out of the gate. Im still pissed and Im not even on the team. If I were on the team … my rage would be maniacally focused on getting better.

(3) Right now the prediction markets have ND winning vs Wisconsin 34-14 with an 87% chance of a win. I agree w KGB. ND has time to gel before the BYU game. Before that, I only worry about stumbling in their opening game vs Wisconsin, but when I see those numbers … I dont think a veteran QB like CJ Carr will let ND stumble. And w ND’s defense, I think Wisconsin may struggle to get to 14.

(4) Who’s got it better than ND? Every team has questions, ND has far less than their opponents.

Anyways, great post Larz. Lots of fun to read and very level headed/ non-hype infused perspective. I also think there’s some well thought out counter arguments here. Fall practices cant start soon enough.

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