There's a number of ways to look at
The way he's framing this. But the thing I want to keep coming back to is this - basically Noie is saying the administration doesn't make the (monetary) effort to field a winning basketball program. And the evidence he presents for this is that we aren't paying the current players on the team enough.
But these players, at least coached by this coach, haven't been successful. At all. How is throwing them a bunch more money going to make them better basketball players? Is that a valuable investment into the program?
The bigger "problem" here, as I see it, is that, if Noie is correct, and $10MM/year for the roster is the MINIMUM investment needed to be competitive, I just don't see the return here. Basketball is not football - even a winning (ie, going to the tourney regularly) program wouldn't bring in the type of money to justify that type of spending. And for the types of numbers that this would involve, the players would be making more than football players, and more than their coaches. I recognize that this is occasionally happening in football. But these numbers would make it the norm in hoops.
If all of this is the new reality, I'm just not sure that ND can compete in this environment. And frankly, not quite sure that they should. I recognize that this is all a bit defeatist, but at least we had 2015...
Complete thread:
- Noie article on the hoops team today -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-25, 16:12
- It's such a lazy take -
Domer99,
2026-03-25, 17:42
- I have no doubt that plenty of schools pay that much -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-25, 17:49
- Baghdad Tom's latest.....and it's a real doozie. -
Domer99,
2026-03-26, 06:50
- Another thing on Baghdad Tom's article - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2026-03-26, 11:09
- There's a number of ways to look at -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-26, 09:37
- Tom Noie has been a crank ever since his drinking buddy - KGB, 2026-03-26, 21:04
- Exactly -
okerland,
2026-03-26, 13:47
- any self-respecting BB school would fire their coach
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KGB,
2026-03-26, 21:07
- any self-respecting BB school would fire their coach
- Agreed. Great points.
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San Pedro,
2026-03-26, 10:55
- That's how I look at it. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2026-03-26, 10:08
- Your first thought is what immediately came to mind -
Domer99,
2026-03-26, 10:07
- Boeheim was squawking recently -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-26, 10:51
- Look, not everything can be viewed through a ROI lens - Domer99, 2026-03-26, 11:21
- I'm out. It's not worth it to me at that price ($20mm) - San Pedro, 2026-03-26, 10:54
- Boeheim was squawking recently -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-26, 10:51
- There are non-sequiturs, and then there's... -
BillyGoat,
2026-03-26, 06:54
- Also, 4 for 40 clearly works for football -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-26, 09:38
- I don't think it does at all anymore - HullieAndMikes, 2026-03-26, 09:46
- Also, 4 for 40 clearly works for football -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-26, 09:38
- Baghdad Tom's latest.....and it's a real doozie. -
Domer99,
2026-03-26, 06:50
- I have no doubt that plenty of schools pay that much -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-03-25, 17:49
- It's such a lazy take -
Domer99,
2026-03-25, 17:42