Defensive Recruiting: 2 Year Snapshot from Scout.com

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Saturday, February 04, 2012, 06:41 (5240 days ago)

It's been a long time since ND was in this kind of company on the defensive side of the ball. Now, if we can actually get those players to PRODUCE at that level, we'll be onto something. (NOTE: I will be doing the same thing with the results from Rivals.com). The recruiting balance, at least, under Kelly has been significantly better.

I've said it before but recruiting success, on paper, hasn't been Notre Dame's problem, at least not for awhile.


DEFENSIVE LINE

TOP 50/5 star players

4 Florida St
4 Ohio St
3 NOTRE DAME
2 LSU
2 Georgia
2 Miami
2 Texas
2 Oklahoma
1 Oregon
1 California
1 Florida
0 Alabama
0 USC
0 Clemson
0 Auburn
0 Stanford
0 Michigan
0 Tennessee
0 Arkansas
0 Michigan State

TOP 300

8 Ohio St
7 Florida St
5 Alabama
5 Georgia
5 Texas
4 NOTRE DAME
4 LSU
4 USC
4 Oregon
4 Miami
4 California
3 Florida
3 Auburn
3 Michigan
2 Clemson
2 Oklahoma
2 Stanford
2 Tennessee
2 Arkansas
1 Michigan St


LINEBACKERS

TOP 50/5 stars

2 Alabama
1 NOTRE DAME
1 Georgia
1 Texas
1 Clemson
1 Ohio St
1 Michigan St
0 LSU
0 USC
0 FSU
0 Oregon
0 Miami
0 California
0 Florida
0 Oklahoma
0 Auburn
0 Stanford
0 Michigan
0 Tennessee
0 Arkansas


TOP 300

7 Alabama
6 Texas
5 LSU
5 Ohio St
5 Michigan
4 USC
3 NOTRE DAME
3 Clemson
3 Auburn
2 Georgia
2 Miami
2 California
2 Florida
2 Stanford
2 Tennessee
2 Michigan St
1 Florida St
1 Oregon
1 Oklahoma
0 Arkansas

DEFENSIVE BACKS

TOP 50/5 stars

2 Alabama
2 Florida St
1 NOTRE DAME
1 Miami
1 Florida
0 LSU
0 USC
0 Oregon
0 Georgia
0 Texas
0 Clemson
0 Oklahoma
0 Auburn
0 Ohio St
0 Stanford
0 Michigan
0 Tennessee
0 Arkansas
0 Michigan State


TOP 300

10 Texas (holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit)
6 Georgia
6 Florida
6 Ohio St
5 Auburn
4 NOTRE DAME
4 Alabama
4 Florida St
3 LSU
3 Oregon
3 Michigan
2 Miami
2 Clemson
2 California
2 Oklahoma
2 Stanford
2 Arkansas
1 USC
1 Tennessee
1 Michigan State


OVERALL DEFENSIVE TOTALS


TO 50/FIVE STARS

6 Florida State
5 NOTRE DAME
5 Ohio State
4 Alabama
3 Georgia
3 Miami
3 Texas
2 LSU
2 Florida
2 Oklahoma
1 Oregon
1 Clemson
1 Michigan St
0 USC
0 Auburn
0 Stanford
0 Michigan
0 TEnnessee
0 Arkansas


TOP 300

21 Texas
19 Ohio St
16 Alabama
13 Georgia
12 LSU
12 Florida St
11 NOTRE DAME
11 Florida
11 Auburn
11 Michigan
9 USC
8 Oregon
8 California
8Miami
7 Clemson
6 Stanford
5 Oklahoma
5 Tennessee
4 Arkansas
4 Michigan St

I'd be interested to see the distribution

by Bill, Murrieta, CA, Saturday, February 04, 2012, 07:45 (5240 days ago) @ FunkDoctorSpock

of where these players are in the system (i.e., under vs upper-classmen, first-year vs fifth-year). A five-star freshmen is still a freshmen and not worth nearly as much as a five-star senior.

This is rising sophomores and incoming freshmen.

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Saturday, February 04, 2012, 07:58 (5240 days ago) @ Bill

Off the top of my head, in the upper classes:

TOP 50
Teo

TOP 300
Nix
Schwenke
Calabrese
Motta
Slaughter
D. McCarthy (if he returns)

the LB is Williams?

by Spesh ⌂ @, Los Angeles, Saturday, February 04, 2012, 08:01 (5240 days ago) @ FunkDoctorSpock

Why Scout, though? They suck.

Just doing Scout and Rivals. Finished Scout first.

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Saturday, February 04, 2012, 09:14 (5240 days ago) @ Spesh

And Ishaq is the LB.

Yup

by Spesh ⌂ @, Los Angeles, Saturday, February 04, 2012, 07:54 (5240 days ago) @ Bill

Plus, a defense is only as good as its weakest link.

See Notre Dame, 2004. That front seven was good (Tuck, Abiamiri, Landri, Laws, Pauly, Budinscak, Hoyte, Goolsby), but man did that secondary suck. Burrell, Zibby (freshman version), Jackson, and Ellick. It also featured the Carlos Campbell as CB experiment, which failed miserably.

Hijacking my own reply to this thread, when did Freddie Parrish transfer? He was part of that team, but I feel like something happened. I don't remember him playing.

My sophomore year. Awful, awful secondary

by Mike (bart), Saturday, February 04, 2012, 10:09 (5240 days ago) @ Spesh

Plus, a defense is only as good as its weakest link.

See Notre Dame, 2004. That front seven was good (Tuck, Abiamiri, Landri, Laws, Pauly, Budinscak, Hoyte, Goolsby), but man did that secondary suck. Burrell, Zibby (freshman version), Jackson, and Ellick. It also featured the Carlos Campbell as CB experiment, which failed miserably.

Hijacking my own reply to this thread, when did Freddie Parrish transfer? He was part of that team, but I feel like something happened. I don't remember him playing.

Dwight Ellick - it was like a whole year of 2011 Gary Gray vs. UM. Oddly enough, he did an ok job on Braylon Edwards in the UM game that year and was roundly convinced he was going to be a first round NFL draft pick. His other claim was being the guy behind us in line at Meijer while my roommate and I bought two handles of vodka and a case of adult diapers.

Quinten Burrell - There were rumors circulating that he only had a starting spot locked up because the coaches loved him on account of being Eddie Robinson's grandson. The contention never made much sense to me, but I learned long ago never to underestimate the complete weirdness of the Willingham era.

Preston Jackson - slowest pick six in football history vs. BYU to open the season. I always thought he was a tad underrated. Probably a C/C+ corner, but people talk about him like he was Clifford Jefferson v 1.1.

I had completely forgotten about the existence of Carlos Campbell.

Freddie Parrish definitely left during his/our sophomore year. I know he got in at least one bad fight at practice. I also know that he was involved in some pretty gross situations during his time on campus.

Kelly decided to focus on defense

by Geoff, Saturday, February 04, 2012, 07:19 (5240 days ago) @ FunkDoctorSpock

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Kelly comment that he wanted to emphasize recruiting defense when he became coach? He claimed his offense could generate enough points. He did not anticipate inheriting one of the biggest busts in recent ND QB history and an absolute stiff in Tommy Rees.

ND lost games under Weis because defense was an after thought. Weis believed his offense could win every game for him. Kelly recognized that ND's defense needed a significant upgrade. So far, Kelly has remained on track. Personally, I would rather the defense be more aggressive in the secondary. I want CBs who can jam WRs at the line and play bump n' run coverage.

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